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BONUS #9 THE AFTER PARTY: INTUITIVE HEALING: Tapping into the Body's Secret Healing Power with Akyiaa Azula from CYP eps 23

April 11, 2024 • Marion Swingler • Episode 9

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WELCOME TO THE AFTER PARTY - the party after the show!

Have you ever felt a gentle nudge from within, guiding you toward an answer that defies logic? That's the intuitive whisper that transformed Akyiaa Azula's acupuncture practice, and it's what we're talking about today. As she peeled back the layers of her patient's health concerns, her success rate improved—not by relying on textbooks, but by trusting the insights that seemed to emerge from the ether. Akyiaa shares how her internal conflicts, between the rigor of scientific research and the elusive nature of intuition, played out in real-time.

Imagine a scenario where your liver, in a voice uncannily like your own, tells you exactly what it needs to heal. Sounds like something out of a sci-fi novel, right? But that's the reality Akyiaa encountered, and in this episode, she dives into these bizarre but enlightening experiences. She also discusses the delicate art of passing this craft onto her students, encouraging them to step into their patients' shoes and listen to stories that can only be told through the body's language. The intersection of intuition and medicine is a strange crossroads, but it leads to profound healing.

Wrapping up, she guides us outside the treatment room and into the broader picture of community and purpose in the world of acupuncture and beyond. We consider how the internet has allowed us to forge bonds that stretch across continents, and what that means for the evolution of the healing arts. From gender dynamics in the business of wellness to the intricacies of ethical communication in healthcare, this episode is a tapestry of the personal, the professional, and the deeply human aspects that intertwine within the journey of a healer.

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Speaker 1:

This is the after party. I'm an acupuncturist. When I was working with my patients I had an 85% success rate. Not good enough for me. That meant 50% of my patients weren't getting what they were paying for and that bothered me. So I went and I did research and I found out the relationship between the mind and the body, how that affected them, because it didn't matter how I changed the ac and the body. How that affected them, because it didn't matter how I changed the acupuncture points, what other herbal formulas that I put together, they still couldn't get past a certain stage. It's like they kept hitting the wall. So that 15% that research that I did led me to working with the mind and the body. And seeing that relationship also led me to develop my intuition to the point where I could see and sense exactly what was going on. That made things go faster for me to find out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, this is the reason why you're having that, because people that come and they start talking to you and they start telling you because they're trying to figure out what's wrong. That's why they're there. You don't go to a doctor if nothing's wrong. So they're trying. So they've tried everything. They're trying to figure it out. They can't figure it out. And if I look at, let's say, what I might have learned from my textbooks, that wouldn't give me the answer either, because most people you know your lives don't really fit into a textbook. We get a description and we get some kind of standard of care, and but everybody doesn't fit that. So that led me to the mind-body connection and then I started realizing, the more and more I worked with people, my intuition, my insights became keener. It wasn't just that I went to the textbook and figured out patterns, it was like all of a sudden I'm like, oh, this is really what's going on with this person. This is, you know, and it's not even anything they told me I'll just get.

Speaker 1:

This is really what's happening with them and then at first, when I started hearing this is really what's happening with this person, I would go, uh, should I even say this to this person? Because it would sound so out there to me, because I'm listening and I'm like that doesn't even make any sense, wait a minute, so you can admit that the things that you say, they sound bizarre to you as well.

Speaker 1:

Very, Because my background is science and research. I am very you got to measure it, you got to prove it, you've got to be able to um verify it, you got to be able to replicate it or it doesn't exist. So I come from this very kind of square, kind of researchy, sciencey type of mindset, thinking and all of that. That's why I told you the book we're reading frustrates me, because when you mentioned research, I'm like where's the rest?

Speaker 1:

of the information about this research. So that was my frustration reading this book, because I'm like don't mention the read, don't tease me. Like you mentioned the research, but you didn't go into what it actually said, right so? So that's my background. So when I started receiving intuitive information from the patient laying there on the table and I would say it sounds like their liver is telling me oh, she told you this, but this is what the real issue is and that's how I started processing it, when I was still first working with someone.

Speaker 2:

And this would sound bizarre.

Speaker 1:

To you It'll sound bizarre because it wouldn't fit anything. They just told me.

Speaker 2:

Wait, so it didn't sound. So okay, I want to make sure we're understanding. So for me, saying bizarre is just the whole thing of you saying what the liver just said yeah, you saying bizarre On their liver issue and then all of a sudden, their liver is spilling the tea.

Speaker 1:

They're like, oh no, it has nothing to do with what this person just said. And it's not that the person's lying, it's that they're unaware, they don't know themselves. They're trying to figure it out. So they're really honestly, truthfully, trying to find an answer to resolve this problem. So they have a bad liver.

Speaker 2:

So then I'm working on no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is the bizarre. I'm sticking with the word bizarre because I want to make sure that what I'm saying is bizarre is what you're saying is bizarre. You don't think it's bizarre to say that a liver spoke to you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you do Not anymore. When the first time. Then Then it was bizarre. Okay, now it's like routine, almost You've accepted it. That's what's going on with them. You know, you do it for so many years. It becomes second nature. But the first time I was like, okay, I'm hearing this voice in my head and I'm listening and I could actually hear to the liver. Okay, this is going to make you laugh. I could actually hear to the liver. Okay, this is going to make you laugh. Most of the time when I hear the person's body is speaking to me that's why they call it medical intuition it sounds like the person's voice. So if I was working with you and all of a sudden, let's say, your heart starts to speak, or maybe you have a bad knee and that part of your body starts to speak, it sounds like your voice.

Speaker 1:

The funniest one I ever had was this woman, and every time I would tell her because people started hearing. Oh, she could do this. I started having people come to my office to find out, well, what was really happening with them. So I had this lady. She was referred and she came in and she knew what I did and she was all for it and what was funny about it? The voice that her body spoke in sound like a British butler. She was a Caucasian woman, but the voice sound like a British man's voice. And I'm like and I kept laughing, I would tell her what I'm hearing and then I'll giggle. And I was like now that was very bizarre. And then what was so funny about it? As she asked, she said well, now that was very bizarre. And then what was so funny about it? As she asked, she said well, every time you told me something, akia, you would giggle. And I said, yes, it was strange because I said it sound like whatever was narrating to me what was happening within your body and within your life. Sound like a British butler. She looked at me, said yes, she said whenever I think about stuff, I hear a British man's voice. You know like when you think, think about it, when you think, you're hearing your thoughts, you're listening to your thoughts, you're talking to yourself, not verbally, but you're talking to yourself. Here, she told me, and I was like you hear a British man's voice. She said yeah, that's what I hear in my head anytime I start thinking. But that's what I heard speaking, told me about what was happening during life. She was having this issue. So.

Speaker 1:

So by doing that, I'm able to like bypass a lot of you know standard care stuff, um, medical stuff, like things that we've learned, textbook stuff. I'm able to bypass that or what you know society might. Society might say if you have this issue, this is probably what it is like, a kind of one size fits all energy. I'm able to bypass it and say, well, yeah, those things are the standard things, but this is really what's going on with you.

Speaker 1:

And so when I say bizarre, at first I was like this person didn't tell me nothing about this when they came in. It's not on their intake sheet. You know, I'm looking at it. Nothing's there about this. This is what their body is saying, what the real issue is really going on with this person. And at first I was like, should I tell? Should I even say anything? This person is going to look at me like I'm weird and I would hear, yeah, tell them. And then I'll tell it to them and they'll say and I would hear, yeah, tell them. And then I'll tell it to them and they'll say, oh, yeah, that makes so much sense. And what I began to realize because I also taught this to students how to do medical intuition. The person would always go oh, yeah, yeah, that makes so much sense now and it's almost like a relief will come over them and they'll have some kind of release will happen. And then they have some kind of release will happen, and then they wouldn't have that issue anymore.

Speaker 1:

And then I used to tell my students, because they wanted to learn how to do what I did, and I said don't worry if the story sounds strange to you or bizarre that's what I mean. Bizarre because it doesn't fit in what you're thinking, right? I said don't worry if it sounds that way, because it's not your story, it's their story, right? So someone else's story will always sound strange to you, okay, and the person's not aware of it.

Speaker 1:

Maybe something that has happened when you were five? Maybe you made a decision, something happened when you were five. You made a decision. Your life is still running on that five-year-old program. Yes, you don't even remember, because you were five. Maybe you made a decision. Something happened when you were five. You made a decision. Your life is still running on that five-year-old program. Yes, you don't even remember, because you were five. Yeah, you don't even remember why you even put that in place. Yeah, those are the type of things that I found out. It's like, okay, you're about five and then this happened.

Speaker 1:

And then people thought, oh yeah, I remember something like that. Well, you made a decision at that time to you know, your relationship with people and the world would be in this context because you were protecting yourself from whatever happened when you were five. So every relationship or if anything, people will come to me because all of a sudden, something has triggered that whole pattern to come back in place and they can't figure out. Why am I going through this? Right, those are the things I need to find out. Okay, will this happen and this thing triggered? It could have been a smell, it could have been somebody said something, maybe you saw something, you heard a sound, it could be anything was the triggering event and now your life is like going topsy-turvy and you don't know why. Can I ask a question?

Speaker 2:

Your gift. Can you use your gift on yourself?

Speaker 1:

Not effectively, I can, but it's limited. It's like, okay, think about it, you can massage yourself, right, but it's more effective if somebody else massages you. Yeah, all on my back but there is. You know, like I could massage my leg. I could, but it feels different.

Speaker 1:

There's because there's this exchange of energy. It's like the factor that someone has put this energy into it and in you know, like in the bible they talk about the witness and where two and three are gathered. You know, there's something about having that other person and that other person's energy and spirit there with you. That makes it more effective than if I just did it by myself and then you have bias if you're doing it by yourself. You know, because you already figure, I know what this is all about and it has, like I say, it may have nothing to do with that. That's why I said it was bizarre, because what they came and told me was going on, what I'm hearing, has nothing to do with anything that they mentioned all week. So that's what I mean. So, even your own bias, you can't see certain things that they're, you're blinded to them that makes so much sense.

Speaker 2:

Um uh, I heard someone say that your gift is not for you. Actually, my pastor, pastor darius daniels, said your gift is not. It helped me so much to be able to know that my gifting was not for me, that there's nothing wrong with me, that there are things that I do that I'm able to help people with, but I need help doing that myself. Even though I can help someone, amazingly, when I sit down to do it for myself, I don't get the same. So it now you've. You've had that it's much biased.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's much more effective when you have that interchange between you and someone else, just like when you show up and let's say you're comforting someone. Someone's going through something they could. They could like, do affirmations they could do, but it's not the same as if someone comes in and tries to comfort you. There's a different. There's a difference in the energy, the way it feels and all of that that we need. And the thing with our society we're so isolated now, we're so afraid of any kind of intimacy with each other and I don't mean intimacy, sexual, I mean just intimacy. Yes, you know the caring for one another and all of that. We just got into society where we're like everybody's, suspicious of everybody and you know which is a really harsh place to be. So one of the things that I was given, you know, like I said, we talk about gifts. We're given different purposes to do. So I was given to be a teacher, be a healer. So I've done those things. When I was given creation, this was back around 2010,. I started doing this work when I was given that work to do and then I was told that I was supposed to also teach people how to do this. So so far I've taught a little bit over a hundred people that I've taught to do this work. The other thing I was taught is that now I have to make it public. So that's part of the reason why I joined MMU, because I was like I have this, this gift, this, this calling um or this mission. I should say it feels more like a mission at this point. I have this mission that I have to make it public. How do I make it public? I mean, I'm known in Orlando, I have taught people in that sphere, but I have to go outside of the? The and go into a bigger pond, which is the world. And how do I bring this to people now? So I joined MMU specifically for that reason, because I knew this is what I need to get this word out to people, that this is available. So more people we could serve more people. And then, prior to joining MMU, I kept seeing the beginnings of a community, because it's one thing, let's say you have a certain pattern with your money and we clear that pattern up, but without the support of having others around you that's also moving in that direction with you, without that level of support and that community and all of that. It makes it harder for you to move forward. It makes it harder for you to advance and really reach out and serve on the level that you should be serving.

Speaker 1:

And when we think about the fact that we have the gift of this internet and one of the things that my, when I sit down and I, you know, I call it a band of angels. Some people say it's a spiritual guide, whatever to me. I don't get really caught into semantics, but that inner guidance that I have and that I hear around me. They said they created the Internet because they want all of us to be able to connect with each other, because we've got other things that need to be done. Yes, fun, but you know, the focus have been, you know, on anything but doing things that will move the consciousness of the planet and move us spiritually and elevate us upward. And they say this is really what they had put it there for us to be able to use this tool right that we have for that. So what you're doing is a way of moving things forward now, and you might not have thought of it that way, but the fact that you said, hey, I got to get people out there. You're doing that because that's moving that there. So then people start seeing it. Oh, I don't have to clown myself, I don't have to, you know, strip and show my whole body. I don't have to do silly dances, I don't have to be, you know, unpaid entertainer. You know I could actually do things. That's going to be meaningful.

Speaker 1:

And we're not saying that anything's wrong with any of those things. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that we have, you know how much power. It is, that at the push of a button you could reach millions. You could reach everybody on this planet. You know the level of a button. You could reach millions. You could reach everybody on this planet with a push of a button. You know the level of power that is.

Speaker 1:

But we have not really processed it and look at it like, oh my God. So if we're going to serve people, we have a tool that we could serve people so efficiently, yes, and so that's one of the things that was downloaded to me and I'm like, yeah, I have to see how this whole thing and how to you know. So in the group that we're in in the community, we're learning how to present ourselves publicly. We're learning how to do all of these things, because that's one of the things that I've been asking for. I need to understand how to do these things and how to do them properly. Yes, otherwise it felt haphazard to me until I joined this community yes, and the morning meetup.

Speaker 2:

David shands has done something that I feel is absolutely spectacular. Not a word I use, but this spectacular, spectacular. You know, you go to the circus, circus, and it's like, oh my goodness, that's spectacular, they just did this, they just did that. I feel like every day I get something, because I come with a high expectation of getting something now. Every day I get a lot of information, but then I get that thing that I know, oh my goodness, I need it.

Speaker 2:

That right now yes, so I'm so grateful to David Shands and the Morning Meet.

Speaker 1:

We're absolutely grateful to him and the community that he's created, because I was told prior to joining the Morning Meetup that I was supposed to create a creation community and I had no idea what that looked like. How would we do that? And I looked at other programs that you know people well, what they call it a mastermind or some community, and I looked at it, but what I didn't see with them, they were so stringent. Yeah, you know, like you couldn't say this, you couldn't talk about this, you couldn't let people know what you did. You know there was so many rules and regulations and I'm like is this? I don't know if that's. And so when I came to the morning meetup and I saw the way David allowed people to be free like we wouldn't even have this happening right now If he didn't say you all need to talk with each other.

Speaker 1:

You all need to collaborate with one another. You all need to talk with each other. Y'all need to collaborate with one another. Y'all need to. There's about 300 of you on this call. Y'all need to get to know one another. This is the point of having community. So the fact that he was so into pushing community, I'm getting more of an inkling. This is what the community should feel like. This is what the community should look like. So then it brought me back to, like Akiaia, when you do stuff, you have a way that you love to accommodate people, you love to host people, you, you love to just make people feel good around you, and all of that. So then, all of a sudden, I felt this ease that, oh, the community would feel like my personality, because what we get is dav's personality.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do. We get high energy First thing in the morning, high energy. The first thing we start out is accountability. He's like look, you're in business, you're trying to do something. You have you know, you have goals and aspirations. Let's break these things down into bite size, palatable, little mini meals and let's decide what are you doing today? What are you doing today? Just two, three things that you're doing today to move the needle forward in where you're going, your goals, your aspirations, because they can't just be goals and aspirations. You actually have to be taking action.

Speaker 2:

So I feel as though there he doesn't just express you need to take action, you need to take action, you need to take action. He makes room for you to actually have to create your plan, bite by bite, piece by piece, ingredient by ingredient. He brings the most amazing people to come in and pour into us, literally like I'm sitting there thirsty and it just it washes over me and I'm like, okay, absolutely, that answered this and now I know how to take these next three steps. I don't allow all the information to overwhelm me. I take it palatable and then I go, and so I feel as though I grow every day. He keeps me focused on my goals.

Speaker 2:

Yes, into that call. Every day with David Shahan keeps me focused on what my goals are and it also helps me to create and make them bigger, because he's constantly growing my thinking towards it. Yeah, constantly growing my relationship with my business, in my business, my relationship with people. I know you because of him. Yeah, Because of him. I know I haven't spoken with you, like we haven't been in tight communication since episode eight, but it's episode 23. All it took was a call and a text.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that was it and we're not sure why, because we see each other every morning. We're not talking just between us, we're talking with a group of people around the world that take time to get on a call and just learn more business thing to become more business. But it's not even just business minded. He's shaping your character, your conduct, your commitment to doing the things that you need to do to be able to accomplish the purpose. The service that you said we provide. Your purpose is your service. It comes easy to you and brings you joy. And brings you joy and makes you happy.

Speaker 1:

And makes you happy, because they you know one of the things, like I said, I hear, you know, I just listen like people talk about they get downloads, I get a lot of them and I listen and they said your purpose is your happiness, it's the thing that makes you happy. So not only are you serving, it's the thing that brings you joy, it's the thing that makes you happy. That's why some people figure why would people pay? Pay me money? Because it makes me feel good to do this thing. So that's the things about the money and the purpose that it was like. That's why I had to do a class on that we're going back to the bible.

Speaker 2:

Your gift will make room for you. A gift is something that you enjoy, it's something, something that I mean it when you. It's always a gift. We love getting gifts, right yeah, you just smile, you're elated, you're excited, you're like, oh, my goodness, and that you're so correct. That's how you should feel about your purpose.

Speaker 2:

You should be bubbling over with joy in doing your purpose, bubbling over with you in doing your purpose and, and for me, stepping back, just like before, in looking at david. Looking at david he just finished the podcast and his purpose was just to serve everyone that was there and made sure that they left with an even higher awareness of what it is they were doing, why they were doing it, how to do it. Because if this takes you, he's like listen, if you just got one good thing, that in itself, take that thing and work that thing so that you can go to the next thing, your purpose being your service.

Speaker 1:

I've never had it. It energizes you and it energizes you. Yeah, you know I could be tired, I could be like my eyes are closing and I may get a call. Somebody might call me. It might be an emergency call and somebody needs my help and I start doing my work with them, I start doing creation or I start doing my intuitive work with them to see what really is happening to them and by the end of that call, I'm no longer sleepy, I'm no longer tired, I am energized. Yes, so that's how you know your purpose. It brings, it makes you happy, it brings you joy and you feel energy doing it.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, you revealed something very powerful because you're saying that it brings you joy, it brings you energy, so you should be able to pinpoint when you're doing something just for the money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I remember doing something for the money what was it again? And I was like, oh my God, if I have to do any more of this. I can't remember what the job was because I've cleared so many patterns, but I remember being on the job and I was getting paid. Well, there was the opportunity to make really good money doing this job. But I was like, oh my God, if I have to do this for the rest of it, just shoot me already. That's how I felt. It wasn't the money. So then you realize even that and that's one of the other 17 ways when you're doing things you hate and that says up your money. You know, like some people, you wonder and they're always complaining I hate my job and they go and it's this drudgery and that is not what God wanted you to experience. This is not the reason you were put here and people don't get it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you're right, there is a fear behind walking in your gifting. There's a big fear.

Speaker 1:

There's a fear that's the whole thing about money and perk. Because I remember, you know, I'd have a graduating class and I taught one of the graduating classes at the college the acupuncture college and I knew they were getting, you know they were leaving, they would have to start their own businesses and so forth. So we've trained them in medicine, we've trained them in everything that they need to pass their license and exams and that kind of stuff. But now we didn't really train them in how to run a business like what we're reading on the morning meetup. We're learning that david shanz is teaching us that. So that's the training that we're getting, but we're not taught that in medical school.

Speaker 1:

So most doctors make the worst business and they're usually not good with money. They make the worst business. They just make a lot of it, but they're really not good with it because they're not really taught that about money. So I would say I would do a class talking to them about their next step when they leave and I'll talk to them about the business aspect of the medicine and they would sit there and they'll be stunned and I'll say, um well, how much are you going to charge for your services? And you know they'll, they'll just have an arbitrary number. I'll charge $35, I'll charge $50, I'll I'll charge 75. And I'm like well, how did you come to? That's what you need to charge. And they're like, well, they just figured. Well, people won't be upset if I say $75, or you know, it's like they had this weird thinking and I said, okay, why would you try? And I told them what I charged, which was like double or triple what they wanted to charge, and they'll go like, oh my God, you charge that much. Wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

Did you all? Did you I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt Did you? When you first started charging? How did you feel?

Speaker 1:

I felt fine. I had no issue about charging for my service. Okay, let me tell you what I did. Issue about charging for my service? Okay, let me tell you what I did when, when I was an intern, we had to do a certain number of patients. You know like that was the regular. You know, in order to get your license you have to get it, whether it was 200, 300, 400. I can't remember what my number was, but I said when I hit that number, my next person was going to pay me. That was while I was an intern. I was like all this free labor and all I'm learning a lot, but this next person, the next time I stick a needle in somebody's body, they're paying me to do that. So I had no issue around charging the services at all and I did.

Speaker 1:

I stopped. I gave all my patients to my classmates who were short on patients. I gave them all my patients and I just stayed in the herbal pharmacy and I made everybody formulas because I really wanted to hone in on that skill even more so, my entire last semester of school I treated nobody. Wow, because my next patient that walked that I put in need was going to pay me. I had made up my mind that's how it was going to be.

Speaker 1:

So I sort of had that issue with charging for services. But when the students would ask me, they said, oh my God, you charge that much. How do you even ask the person? And I said well, at the end of the treatment I just say would you like to pay with a check, cash or credit card? That's it. I mean, this is something that we do every single day. We go into the store, you pay for things, we have these transactions all the time, so why should it be doing any different when it's something that you're doing? That makes no sense and the person would look at you odd, like you just did a service. They're used to paying for things.

Speaker 2:

Can I?

Speaker 1:

say that I want to pay you. This is something going on within you, not the person you're treating.

Speaker 2:

But most people. I find that when most people start their businesses, they go in their small sphere of people that they know when their products, service in this world is to be opened up to the world. Yes, because more times than not, where you're actually going to rejection to be seen, where you're actually going to be accepted, where your value is actually going to be needed, is outside of.

Speaker 1:

And part of the other 17 ways is fear of success and fear of rejection.

Speaker 1:

Fear of failure and rejection and fear of success. That is. And I didn't have that going into business because to me business just felt logical. It's like I pay. If I want shoes, I gotta pay for it. If I want groceries, I gotta pay for it. So why wouldn't somebody wanna pay me? That was just how my logical mind worked. But some people they don't feel. Or with women, like we talk about women, they will undercharge because they're taught that you're not supposed to have money. It's like something that has gone on for millennia.

Speaker 1:

With women it's been thousands of years of women not being able to handle money.

Speaker 2:

And then in the last 50 years.

Speaker 1:

They're handling money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They have a weird relationship to money. So women undervalue and undercharge all the time. So when I would see females like guys will charge, like, okay, a guy would have a beat up old car and you'll say, well, how much you want for the car, he'll tell you the $3,000. They got this system in it. He'll tell you $3,000. It's some beat up old car like what we call Hoopty, right, he'll charge a lot for that you ask a woman the same question.

Speaker 1:

She's like I don't know, like $1,000, maybe $900. That's how women will approach it. Because of the difference in how we are taught about money. You know our roles toward money whether you're a male or female. So just by being a man or a woman, you have a different experience and you have a different relationship to money.

Speaker 2:

You said it Our roles towards money, because I feel as though women let's see, I'm just going to pick one thing that women do we were. I have given example. I'm going to give an example. I literally joked with someone and said I just did all of this, so I know you paying for lunch. And he literally said wait, a minute, if I'm paying for lunch, you know what you're going to have to do and I'm like wait, how does that lunch equate to an intimate? I would say the way he was saying transaction. You can't do that with me, but how do you equate?

Speaker 1:

Because men are taught your interaction, because men do not really, and this is just something I observed just for life. Men are not really interested in relationships with women, unless it's food and sex. Let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 2:

You said what and what Food and sex. Food and sex.

Speaker 1:

Food and sex. And there was a cartoon. I'll tell you the cartoon and it was so true because that's psychologically what they think. So, um, men are interested in relationship with other men because they they measure themselves against other men, they measure their success within themselves against other. They don't measure those things against women, right? And if you have a woman that's doing that, she's out of her place, who does she think she is within themselves? Against others? They don't measure those things against women, right? And if you have a woman that's doing that, she's out of her place, who does she think she is? She's trying to be a man. You know, you get all of that. So that's where that comes from.

Speaker 1:

Because men, you know, men get their admiration, they're successful based on how they measure up to other men. Yes, so they measure up to other men. Yes, so they always want to be in more relationships. So women were thinking, oh, we're doing this, this and this. And the guys no, he doesn't look at us from that angle, because they're taught from their small Women.

Speaker 1:

Have, you know, they feed you, they feed you, take care of you, and you know they're not your mom, you have sex, right. Or your sister, right, you have sex with them. That's the relationship. So they're taught very early. That's what how you deal with a woman. So it isn't odd for him to think that. Right, because the culture and everything has told him that this is the relationship you have with this person because she's a woman, whereas if it's another man, he'll be like yeah, let's hang out together, let's talk about this, let's do this. I'm doing so. Men are always, you know, like I don't want to say, but they measure the D with each other. They're always D measuring with each other. That's where that comes from.

Speaker 2:

So it's always that with other men, whether's competition or whatever. It's towards other men, it's not towards men, right? Yeah, so that's why I'm sorry. So that's why they like to hang out with them and just just, oh, I'm going to hang out with my boys. Something's going on. I need to talk with my boys Always, my boys, oh, my boys. Kid is having a party. Let me get there. Well wait, you didn't come to your own kid's party, or you didn't? I got to support my boys, yeah.

Speaker 1:

For your own, but you A whole different. It's like a whole different. Like they said, what men are from Mars, women are from it's a whole other world.

Speaker 1:

And you start looking at people's worldview, because I not only study but I observe. So I just observe. It's not what people say or what we tell is supposed to be this way. I just observe. Okay, you say that, but what are you actually doing? So I just sit back and I observe and I say, oh, it's not relationship with women that are important to men, it's a relationship with other men.

Speaker 1:

Now, the relationship to men are important to women because men was your source of survival for thousands of years. You know you would put up with all types of stuff. You know he could be anything, but it meant that my child would be able to survive and live and thrive. And as long as I'm attached to this man and that's why, you know, even in politics you look at it and they say, well, women are voting against this, but it doesn't really serve the purpose of women or serve the advancement of women. But the relationship and the support and security of being attached to the male is more important than some feminine or female thing.

Speaker 1:

That's the reason why that decision, because then that means that my child get to have these other privileges or resources. That means that my family get to have certain privileges and status and resources. If I attach myself to the man, it doesn't help me attaching myself to the women that have no power. So that's where all of that. So that's why, when people say they vote against their own interests, that's the reason why, because I look and I say, oh, that's curious, I wonder why. And then I start to observe and I said, oh yeah, then if you have to make that decision, it's going to be your kids, kids, your household, and all of that is way more important than some sisterhood thing, if it comes down to that, you are correct.

Speaker 2:

You are correct yet again, my mind, my mind, ma'am, stretched yeah, my mind.

Speaker 1:

Well, people don't think about that, but the reason why I think about all these things. So people come to me and they have all these issues and then I have to find out what's the cause of them having that particular issue or symptom or disease or whatever it is. So I have to look at like a wide swath of what's going on, so it's not just the person what's happening in their environment, what's going on around them, what's been going on through their bloodlines and their genetics. You know what's happening with their body, what are they eating. I have to take in a whole lot of factors and that's why the intuition helps, because if I have to go each one with my mind, it'll take forever. So that's why I'm really glad that I was able to go like a laser, like the little missiles that can find things. I could go right to it with intuition.

Speaker 2:

Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1:

It's so much it could be anything. Someone walks in the door. It could be anything is the reason why they're having a problem.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, your intuition is is, for me, unmatched. I've I've never met anyone with the depth and height of the gifting that you have, height of the gifting that you have. Thank you, I'm very honored, um, even for you to take the time to have these conversations with me. That's why I was so honored. I'm like she's back.

Speaker 1:

She's back, that is. But you know what's interesting? Yeah, Because over the years cause mine was out of necessity I had to find out what was going on with my patient and how I could help them, and I went from 85% to a 95% success rate, with people healing, Because it was always why are they not healing? I don't understand why they're not healing. So I went from that to that and the 5% is I realized is things that's out of my scope. They need another practitioner, they needed another form of treatment. What I have to give them is not what they need. So that's the 5% that I can't touch.

Speaker 2:

Now I respect you even more because you're saying that listen, I'm not saying that 100% of everything you can admit where you're finding this, this isn't. I can't help you If someone has a severe infection.

Speaker 1:

No, if someone got in a car accident, they have major trauma or maybe they need surgery, they have a tumor, they have something else going on that's outside of my scope. They need to go there. So I'm not going to sit there and take their money and tell them no, come into me, and I'm gonna. No, you, you need to go have surgery. You know what's going on with you is serious. You need to go see the doctor right away. You might need chemo. You know, it's like things like I wouldn't say to them. They need chemo. Of course, right, you need a lab test and all of that. But intuitively I might pick like.

Speaker 1:

I had someone call me from New York and she did everything. Natural, she ate, natural, did everything. She did colonics for a living. That was her job. She did the whole alkaline water before alkaline water was a thing. She was doing all of this stuff.

Speaker 1:

And she calls me on the phone and she's telling me that she's having a swollen abdomen. It won't go down, and the first word I hear is like oh my gosh, she got cancer. That's the thought that popped in my head. And she's calling me to tell her. Well, what's happening? So, ethically. I can't say to someone on the phone you've got cancer, right. So I said you need to go to the doctor. This sounds serious. You need to go, because you know a lot of those people with all that natural stuff they don't need like to go to the western doctor. That's part of their whole makeup. I said you need to go to the doctor, find out what's happening with you, even though I'm already hearing she has that.

Speaker 1:

She called me back two days later. She goes to the doctor. She's upset with the doctor because they told you have cancer. But then she's reading the report and the report doesn't necessarily say you have cancer. It said the findings looks like you know they put in a kind of vague terminology because they're doing that for their own protection from not getting sued and malpractice and stuff so the way. So she's going through the fine point of the word. But it does say cancer on her report, right, and she was an unfortunately for you know lovely woman. She only lasted two months because she was very resistant to even dealing with the fact that that's what was wrong with her. But as soon as I just heard she got cancer like real loud, she got cancer I was like, oh my God, but I can't say it ethically. You know, you need to go to your doctor, you need to find out what's going on, you need to go get the go through the proper procedures and protocols. And all of that because not number one? It also protects me, right?

Speaker 2:

you know as a practitioner.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that's one of the things that I know is that a lot of times, people just have a hard time, you know, dealing with different things going on in their life, and me, with my intuition, I always find a way to tell it to people in a way that they could hear Right, you know so, and don't think just because I'm saying to you, oh, you need to go to your doctor, means you got something that serious. That's not what I'm saying. It could be like you need to go get a checkup or you're a little bit run down. You may need some vitamins or something. You need blood work done, you know it could be anything like that, and that's why I said that 5% is not something that I do, I realize that. But that 95% well, I felt good that I said 95% of the people that come and see me. I could truly help them because they're paying me for that work. So I feel better that I am actually honoring the promise that I make to them when they come and see me.

Speaker 2:

Honoring the promise that I make to them when they come see me. That is not a great statement to live by, to serve by.

Speaker 1:

I don't boycott. I don't boycott the heck out of a store if I go there, or a restaurant. You did not give me what I paid for. I'm like, oh, that's my pet peeve, I don't care how much it costs, it's not even a price issue for me, I don't care what it costs, just give me what I paid for and it's good. I feel that if I'm not doing that for any client or any patient, I don't feel good about it. I just want to make sure that the promise, my promise of the contract with you is when you come and see me, you expect to get these results, and if I don't deliver them, it bothers me Right.

Speaker 2:

All right, well, we don't want anything to be bothering you. Yes, anything be bothering you. Yes, oh, I appreciate you. Thank you so much for staying for the after party. Yeah, thank you.